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and welcome to Nada I'm Christine

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janyang UFO stories are everywhere these

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days but it's rare that they're told

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from an Aboriginal perspective in

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December of 1996 approximately 31 people

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claimed to have witnessed a giant UFO

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along a 340 kilometer stretch of highway

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in the Yukon as we discovered this was

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no ordinary sighting and according to

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Legend this is not the first encounter

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with UFOs in the Yukon we hope you enjoy

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the show

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until recent times the histories of

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Canada's Aboriginal peoples especially

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in Yukon was not recorded in written

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form

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their stories of creation how they

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viewed their world and major events

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throughout time have for the most part

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been passed along through the oral

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storytelling tradition

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some stories told around campfire since

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time immemorial are of strange entities

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or Spirit beings who interacted with

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humans

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other stories suggest beings who

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manifested themselves in various aerial

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phenomena such as lights or clouds in

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the sky sometimes taking locals to

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strange and Distant Worlds these stories

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were told and retold long before the

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Roswell UFO incident of 1947

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and while anthropological in nature the

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stories foreshadow many of the UFO

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phenomena observed around the world over

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the past six decades

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now the Yukon famous for its Wilderness

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wildlife and beauty and its Rich first

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nation in Gold Rush history has entered

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the vast database of UFO research with a

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story of its own

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it's a unique account not only because

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of the scale and location of the

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sightings but because it appears to put

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into perspective many of the stories

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told for hundreds perhaps thousands of

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years around crackling fires of strange

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beings and lights in the nighttime sky

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this story unfolds not around a campfire

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but on a lonely stretch of highway

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this is the north Klondike Highway it is

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a 541 kilometer stretch that begins in

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Whitehorse the capital city of the Yukon

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Territory and runs through several

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communities and gas stops before ending

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in Dawson City The Hub of the Klondike

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at certain times of the year travel

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along this highway can be a long lonely

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experience especially at night

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on a cold winter evening in 1996 over 30

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people witnessed an event that would

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leave them wondering what they saw and

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questioning their own reality

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Travelers on this highway spot something

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out over a lake that makes them skid to

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around the same time that evening in

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three different communities in the

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region several people witness an object

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hovering over their Villages leaving

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them shaken and in one case face down on

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this strange event was investigated and

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recorded by Martin jassic founding

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at Fox Lake the first sighting was

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around quarter to eight o'clock quarter

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to eight in the evening

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then at the main sighting there occurred

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around 8 30. in CarMax it was seven

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o'clock some indications there might

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have been a 10 o'clock sighting as well

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the village of Pali Crossing it was nine

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o'clock and in the village of mayo it

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for Danny Skookum the evening starts out

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like any other traveling from White

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it's cold outside it's a clear and

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at around 8 pm he approaches the

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southern tip of Fox Lake

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he sees something out of the corner of

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to the northwest of his position is a

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not thinking too much about it he

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two vehicles heading in the opposite

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the lights from these vehicles interfere

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with his vision for a moment

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but when his eyes adjust three rows of

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light slowly disappear behind a hill

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to his astonishment the lights appear to

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be part of a larger object

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he continues on his way thinking what he

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just witnessed looked like something out

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of a Star Trek movie

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but this is not a movie this is very

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we refer to the witnesses to protect

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their names but as Fox 2 or one or three

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Fox 2 and fox 3 they were driving along

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the lake and I came down this hill here

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um this huge row of Lights appears a UFO

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the top and bottom and I noticed as I

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look across on Lake I noticed there's

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something huge in the air

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I thought that there was no waves

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helicopter out here especially in Winter

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hundred meters apart and

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um DFO slowly goes over the lake but you

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how YouTube it was over there

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the size of it I would say is as big as

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can't even figure we got closer

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as the object moved directly over him

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the witness referred to as Fox 2 got out

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of his truck and stared up into a bright

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light

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up that's so bright though but uh kind

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Sprite has lights all over underneath

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but it had lights on the side too as you

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see I can see certainly see little

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see under a kind of like a plate almost

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a long plate or whatever underneath it

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when it went over the witness tries to

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use a two-way radio in his truck but

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when he turns it on all he can raise is

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work

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couldn't get through on that

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at the same time his cousin scrambles

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for a disposable camera

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by the time he finds it the object has

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people look

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their eyes just huge

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I don't know how long I stayed there

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standard and chalk I guess before uh

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my cousin I'm gonna ask are you okay

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yes I went back cut back into

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took a truck and try to Stir It Up

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and uh and at the same time uh Witnesses

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Fox four and five they came around this

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corner here and they saw these huge raw

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lights going across the uh Lake out here

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and then they

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um recall going past here and and seeing

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Fox two and three so we know that both

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sets of witnesses saw the UFO at the

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same time Witnesses Fox 4 and 5 are a

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couple they have a baby in the back seat

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of their car

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at first they thought it was

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a truck out here like a semi-trailer

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truck with all the lights but there's no

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Road out here then they thought it was a

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jumbo jet crashing

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that no it wasn't that then when they

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realized was UFO the they got scared uh

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the wife wanted to go back go back stop

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you know and then but there was a truck

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ahead of them so they decide to continue

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on and they lost sight of it as they

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went into the uh the tree area here I

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hear stories a long time ago from other

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people they see things uh

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following the vehicles

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around Fox Lake area too I heard before

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not too long leaving up the Asia I wrote

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but I don't know but yeah let's see

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whether you're asking I don't know if

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it's it's human to have that technology

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for something that huge system

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look how much noise a helicopter makes

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just to get off the ground

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and the hover and it makes a lot of

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noise this thing is as big as a football

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field and not make a sound just come

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over like that

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close to the same time a woman referred

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to as witness Fox 6 is driving alone

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along the same stretch when a strange

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light illuminates her dashboard

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she looks up and to her amazement a

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group of multicolored lights are

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hovering over her vehicle the lights in

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her vehicle dim the music she's

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listening to garbles she watches until

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each of the lights seem to go out

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she drives on confused not sure what

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she's just witnessed

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hey hey hey hey

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about halfway between white horse and

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CarMax it's a popular stop for travelers

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between the two centers a place where

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tourists and truckers can satisfy an

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appetite and swap stories with Steve

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Watson the owner operator of the lodge

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he's heard a lot of stories during his

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time there but on the evening of

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December 11 1996 he heard of an event

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that seems so incredible it would leave

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him scanning the evening Skies around

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his property for months afterwards

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I was sitting at the table it was

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getting later at night

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and uh

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there's usually people coming back from

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White Horse and

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this fella came in

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uh Danny spookum

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from CarMax

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and then he's a good friend of mine and

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we're he's quite excited and

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he's he starts tell me about this object

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he saw at Little Fox Lake and

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he's describing it to me in in quite

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quite a bit of detail as I pull into

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braver nervous a lot of people there and

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everybody was scattered around are all

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excited and everybody was talking about

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it a little while later another car come

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in and

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this other fella

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he was quite excited too they all just

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they were really excited and they come

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in there's some I think he had some

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people with them and

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he sat down we all started talking and

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talking about it and he starts drawing

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the the exact same thing that Danny had

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just told me

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he he drew it and while he was doing

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this a bunch of other people came in

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and they uh

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described

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the same thing that was being drawn it

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was kind of weird you know like they uh

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they all yeah they were pretty excited

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about it because they all they all

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they all saw the same thing we can

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calculate the actual size vehicle they

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did say it was huge so here's Fox forms

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five location you project that angle out

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to here where Fox 2 and fox 3 were

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here's a few estimates of the size of

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the efo and based on those drawings you

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can see the scale here

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is the same order of one or two

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kilometers maybe just under a kilometer

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for the smallest estimate here

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foreign

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Crossing has a total population of less

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than 300 people 80 percent of whom are

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First Nation

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it's 282 kilometers Northwest of

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Whitehorse on the banks of the Peli

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River most of the work is in government

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providing services such as education and

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health

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the main employer is the Selkirk First

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Nation

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a small part of the economy is hunting

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fishing and trapping and it was trapping

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that had Don Trudeau out on the land on

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December 11

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1996 and when I commended at clearing I

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noticed out of the corner of my eye a

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strange light and I turned and looked at

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it it was green beam

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and I thought oh 747 is coming down

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then I looked at it and it was moving

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very very slow so I turned to get a full

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full view of it and when I turned my

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flashlight being pointed in that

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direction and that thing was

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three quarters of a mile to a mile away

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when I first saw it and as soon as my

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flashlight beam turned that thing went

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and it was about 300 yards away really

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really fast and when I did that I

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covered my light

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then I stood there watching it and I

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could no longer look at it without

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turning and looking at it by turning my

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head another witness from that Community

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is Gene van bibber her family has a

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homestead at Pele Crossing she's lived

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there most of her life

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I was driving back from Whitehorse with

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my brother and we were close to Peli

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we're only a few kilometers out of Peli

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when he looked over at me and said holy

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[\h__\h] Gene and he was looking up in the

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sky and so I followed his gaze and I

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seen sort of huge clusters of stars all

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together and right away I realized that

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it was a vehicle

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and it was traveling at a very slow rate

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of speed

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and I could see it above the hill and it

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went just below the Big Dipper in the

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sky and it was the same

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length as the Big Dipper out of the back

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of it was two lights two white beams

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that were down on a 45 degree angle and

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now to the front of it was a green beam

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and those beams had to be about four

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feet in diameter both the one in front

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and the two behind you couldn't see the

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outline of the UFO but you could see the

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lights there was lights on on the side

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of the vehicle going like up and down

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and then there was individual lights for

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several stories

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I couldn't see the shape of the hole it

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was uh

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Dark of the Moon there was no moon

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but I could see that a great portion of

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the sky was blacked out the Stars I

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couldn't see the stars

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and I watched that for probably four to

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five minutes

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and very very slowly it kept going to

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where it was coming behind me and it was

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starting to disappear behind the

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Treetops so I run across that little

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crane probably about four or five steps

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I was across I turned around and looked

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and was gone

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it looked like something that huge

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shouldn't be moving in a straight line

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at that speed

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to my mind everything was kind of

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I was really surprised to see it I was

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excited

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scared and all these emotions sort of

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[Music]

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the time was just off

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this thing could move so silently

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there's no motor sound it was just

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floating

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in in how I understand

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ergonomics it's it it can't do that so I

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was thinking geez you know this this is

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amazing and then after that it left

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geez why did I cover my light

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I might have been able to go up there

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and and visit with those whatever we saw

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it for oh I'd say a few minutes anyway

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and then the lights on it went blink

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blink blink in different sections of the

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spaceship and then it disappeared

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you couldn't see it at all and you

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couldn't hear anything

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and after this happened and I got home

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probably around 10 o'clock and they were

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watching a video and believe it or not

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that video was

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Independence Day and they were just

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watching the scene where the alien ship

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opened up and shot the blasto and I come

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in you know all excited you'll never

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guess what I saw and so I read my story

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and then all of them become very very

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frightened in fact our grandchildren

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didn't want to go out for their a good

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week they didn't want to be able to make

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like it was a complete surprise to both

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my brother and myself so

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I asked him I said well what do you

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think of it and he said maybe it's us in

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the future coming back to see ourselves

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foreign

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yet another witness in Pele crossing a

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teenage boy also has a close encounter

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he was crossing the bridge and he saw

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this Royal lights coming he got so

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scared he laid down on the bridge and

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then he at one point he looked up and

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the object was right above him he came

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he came home and he told his grandma

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about it and I talked to his grandma and

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she said he was really frightened about

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it he was I think maybe 16 years old or

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something like that

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before the object moved out of the Skies

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over pelly Crossing it would be seen by

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at least four other people

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about a kilometer outside the village of

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Carmax four men are out for a drive

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they notice a group of Lights to the

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northwest of them

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they stopped for a better look

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while the men stare at the lights a

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family of five are sitting in their

439
00:19:33,950 --> 00:19:31,679
living room in CarMax watching

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television when through a window they

441
00:19:37,070 --> 00:19:35,580
notice a row of Lights moving in the

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distance

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the father thinks it may be a jumbo jet

444
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but hears no sound

445
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children think it's Santa Claus then the

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lights go out one by one

447
00:19:51,409 --> 00:19:49,679
further north in mayo another eight

448
00:19:53,090 --> 00:19:51,419
people would report seeing strange

449
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lights over their Village

450
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no one is sure if there was one craft or

451
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several no who knows if it's man-made or

452
00:20:02,630 --> 00:20:00,240
something from outer space but they

453
00:20:04,610 --> 00:20:02,640
definitely saw what they saw

454
00:20:07,370 --> 00:20:04,620
and uh

455
00:20:09,710 --> 00:20:07,380
this area is known

456
00:20:10,669 --> 00:20:09,720
that people see different stuff though

457
00:20:14,350 --> 00:20:10,679
so

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00:20:18,590 --> 00:20:16,549
who knows maybe it wasn't Mass

459
00:20:21,289 --> 00:20:18,600
hallucination but I doubt it

460
00:20:22,970 --> 00:20:21,299
was and it

461
00:20:26,210 --> 00:20:22,980
and it was definitely

462
00:20:28,669 --> 00:20:26,220
a manufactured

463
00:20:30,529 --> 00:20:28,679
thing that they saw

464
00:20:33,250 --> 00:20:30,539
somebody somebody made it

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for something made it or whoever

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00:20:39,409 --> 00:20:36,000
they're describing things that are not

467
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conventional that move very quickly and

468
00:20:44,810 --> 00:20:41,700
hover it and are silent and there's just

469
00:20:47,930 --> 00:20:44,820
no other explanation than than something

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00:20:54,770 --> 00:20:50,990
the term unidentified flying object was

471
00:20:58,549 --> 00:20:54,780
coined around 1950 by 1953 it was

472
00:21:00,650 --> 00:20:58,559
shortened to UFO in the years since the

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00:21:03,830 --> 00:21:00,660
stories concerning UFOs have been Rife

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00:21:05,570 --> 00:21:03,840
with speculation some witnesses truly

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00:21:08,930 --> 00:21:05,580
believe the objects to be of alien

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00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:08,940
origin piloted by strange-looking beings

477
00:21:13,310 --> 00:21:11,039
Skeptics believe these objects to be

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00:21:14,990 --> 00:21:13,320
aeronautical technology being tested by

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00:21:17,150 --> 00:21:15,000
governments

480
00:21:18,830 --> 00:21:17,160
still others believe the objects to be

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00:21:20,270 --> 00:21:18,840
atmospheric test equipment such as

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weather balloons

483
00:21:24,409 --> 00:21:22,559
UFO investigator Martin jassic

484
00:21:26,830 --> 00:21:24,419
considered several possibilities for the

485
00:21:29,210 --> 00:21:26,840
sightings in December of 1996 in Yukon

486
00:21:30,950 --> 00:21:29,220
including blimps

487
00:21:33,649 --> 00:21:30,960
tried the

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00:21:36,529 --> 00:21:33,659
several explanations uh is there a blimp

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in the area and I contacted a blimp

490
00:21:40,850 --> 00:21:38,400
company out in Toronto and they said no

491
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blimps do not fly in the winter it's

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very dangerous because just a bit of a

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snowfall on the blimp itself can bring

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it down so it wasn't so what else is

495
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that big and flies around there are also

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people who would say the whole thing is

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a hoax

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before the people in The Villages along

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the north Klondike Highway and those

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stopped along Fox Lake on the evening

501
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that the giant craft was spotted this

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you may see what I saw

503
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and if you see it believe it

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00:22:20,270 --> 00:22:18,600
if you don't see it don't scoff at those

505
00:22:23,270 --> 00:22:20,280
who do

506
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and then too many too many are telling

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the story

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they're out there

509
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I believe there's something out there

510
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now that I've seen in myself in my own

511
00:22:44,690 --> 00:22:42,240
eyes we know what something's there

512
00:22:45,950 --> 00:22:44,700
somewhere you know it's not like we

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00:22:47,690 --> 00:22:45,960
can't we can't

514
00:22:50,090 --> 00:22:47,700
we can't deny it because we don't know

515
00:22:51,470 --> 00:22:50,100
well there there are unanswered

516
00:22:53,990 --> 00:22:51,480
questions

517
00:22:55,789 --> 00:22:54,000
um we're taught not to believe in UFOs

518
00:22:58,490 --> 00:22:55,799
we're taught not to believe in all sorts

519
00:23:00,830 --> 00:22:58,500
of things and uh humans do as they're

520
00:23:03,770 --> 00:23:00,840
told despite the unanswered questions

521
00:23:05,450 --> 00:23:03,780
and the uncertainty a large percentage

522
00:23:07,789 --> 00:23:05,460
of society believe there is life on

523
00:23:09,350 --> 00:23:07,799
other planets they also believed that

524
00:23:11,630 --> 00:23:09,360
there are Intergalactic visitors who

525
00:23:13,909 --> 00:23:11,640
come to Earth to interact with humans

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00:23:16,549 --> 00:23:13,919
Michael Bryan is one

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00:23:18,529 --> 00:23:16,559
he believes in UFOs and in order to

528
00:23:20,750 --> 00:23:18,539
stimulate dialogue about the subject and

529
00:23:22,850 --> 00:23:20,760
other tough issues he writes an article

530
00:23:25,610 --> 00:23:22,860
called Beyond The Box

531
00:23:28,070 --> 00:23:25,620
it appears in a local newspaper it's

532
00:23:30,190 --> 00:23:28,080
common sense to me that we are not alone

533
00:23:34,490 --> 00:23:30,200
in this universe

534
00:23:37,250 --> 00:23:34,500
that there are other there's life on

535
00:23:38,330 --> 00:23:37,260
other planets in other galaxies and so

536
00:23:41,270 --> 00:23:38,340
forth

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Lorraine bretman has written a book UFO

538
00:23:44,930 --> 00:23:42,960
stories from the Yukon

539
00:23:46,490 --> 00:23:44,940
she runs an ad in the personal section

540
00:23:48,590 --> 00:23:46,500
of a local paper that has a telephone

541
00:23:50,690 --> 00:23:48,600
number to call if someone wants to

542
00:23:53,390 --> 00:23:50,700
report a UFO sighting or other strange

543
00:23:57,169 --> 00:23:53,400
phenomena well in the beginning I had

544
00:23:58,909 --> 00:23:57,179
asked for UFO stories and I the first

545
00:24:02,930 --> 00:23:58,919
year I wrote

546
00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:02,940
it was 101 stories and not one of them

547
00:24:09,950 --> 00:24:06,720
was the same I think at the moment we

548
00:24:11,390 --> 00:24:09,960
tend to be looked upon as adolescent

549
00:24:13,370 --> 00:24:11,400
children

550
00:24:16,130 --> 00:24:13,380
and that we're being very closely

551
00:24:17,870 --> 00:24:16,140
observed by a different

552
00:24:19,610 --> 00:24:17,880
um star people

553
00:24:21,590 --> 00:24:19,620
we can't say there isn't anybody out

554
00:24:24,529 --> 00:24:21,600
there or any any other thing we'd be

555
00:24:26,510 --> 00:24:24,539
kind of silly to say that

556
00:24:29,330 --> 00:24:26,520
tell you the truth I mean

557
00:24:31,730 --> 00:24:29,340
we'd be pretty naive if I see something

558
00:24:33,649 --> 00:24:31,740
on a busy highway like this and a lot of

559
00:24:37,190 --> 00:24:33,659
other people seen it

560
00:24:38,930 --> 00:24:37,200
it's got to be other people's seen stuff

561
00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:38,940
here in the territory I don't need a

562
00:24:42,770 --> 00:24:40,080
territory but

563
00:24:44,810 --> 00:24:42,780
Around the World perhaps ultimately

564
00:24:47,330 --> 00:24:44,820
there are enough people in Yukon who

565
00:24:50,149 --> 00:24:47,340
believe in UFOs that the Yukon UFO

566
00:24:52,190 --> 00:24:50,159
research society was established in 2001

567
00:24:53,330 --> 00:24:52,200
to investigate and record the local

568
00:24:54,770 --> 00:24:53,340
sightings

569
00:24:56,810 --> 00:24:54,780
I lived in the UConn for about eight

570
00:25:00,289 --> 00:24:56,820
years and when I was up there I um

571
00:25:01,669 --> 00:25:00,299
invested a UFO sightings and it was

572
00:25:05,149 --> 00:25:01,679
really good it got to meet a lot of

573
00:25:07,789 --> 00:25:05,159
people and really interesting cases

574
00:25:09,590 --> 00:25:07,799
we used to go out in the field and and

575
00:25:11,390 --> 00:25:09,600
take measurements of where people saw

576
00:25:13,789 --> 00:25:11,400
things and uh

577
00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:13,799
and compiled reports and put them on a

578
00:25:18,830 --> 00:25:16,320
website and published some of them

579
00:25:21,529 --> 00:25:18,840
the research Society has recorded at

580
00:25:22,430 --> 00:25:21,539
least 293 sightings going back to the

581
00:25:24,590 --> 00:25:22,440
60s

582
00:25:26,690 --> 00:25:24,600
with at least one sighting from the 30s

583
00:25:29,390 --> 00:25:26,700
less than half of the sightings were

584
00:25:31,190 --> 00:25:29,400
made public by the witnesses

585
00:25:33,490 --> 00:25:31,200
these records indicate that there may

586
00:25:37,789 --> 00:25:33,500
also be UFO hot spots in the territory

587
00:25:39,890 --> 00:25:37,799
well uh I think the the one that a lot

588
00:25:42,769 --> 00:25:39,900
of people are familiar with is Fox Lake

589
00:25:48,549 --> 00:25:42,779
a high hot spot from what I understand

590
00:25:54,250 --> 00:25:48,559
is LaBarge Lake LaBarge and also Viceroy

591
00:25:59,210 --> 00:25:56,630
Elder Irene Adamson is a southern

592
00:26:01,190 --> 00:25:59,220
dishoni of klinget descent she's lived

593
00:26:02,870 --> 00:26:01,200
and hunted in the Fox Lake Lake LaBarge

594
00:26:05,029 --> 00:26:02,880
area most of her life

595
00:26:07,070 --> 00:26:05,039
if strange celestial objects were

596
00:26:08,690 --> 00:26:07,080
spotted in the area in the past she

597
00:26:11,690 --> 00:26:08,700
would have heard about it

598
00:26:13,310 --> 00:26:11,700
indeed the story she recounts here is of

599
00:26:16,730 --> 00:26:13,320
a strange event that occurred in that

600
00:26:18,769 --> 00:26:16,740
area during the 1800s my grandmother

601
00:26:21,529 --> 00:26:18,779
that

602
00:26:22,430 --> 00:26:21,539
a shooting next routine but it's not

603
00:26:26,750 --> 00:26:22,440
there

604
00:26:28,750 --> 00:26:26,760
they stay up right back behind them that

605
00:26:32,450 --> 00:26:28,760
Village is

606
00:26:34,370 --> 00:26:32,460
up in that mountain that mountain so

607
00:26:37,610 --> 00:26:34,380
they were sitting down by the campfire

608
00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:37,620
after they eat so the moon come up and

609
00:26:41,570 --> 00:26:39,600
it just went up so far

610
00:26:44,930 --> 00:26:41,580
and then here

611
00:26:47,690 --> 00:26:44,940
and all of a Suddenly It's just it's

612
00:26:50,029 --> 00:26:47,700
just like it started drip

613
00:26:54,049 --> 00:26:50,039
started drip just like water

614
00:26:57,110 --> 00:26:54,059
and the heat that moon was Dripping and

615
00:27:00,769 --> 00:26:57,120
so it went down so far

616
00:27:04,730 --> 00:27:00,779
and it stopped there and another another

617
00:27:06,409 --> 00:27:04,740
moon was formed there another Moon

618
00:27:09,529 --> 00:27:06,419
and

619
00:27:11,930 --> 00:27:09,539
it happened three times

620
00:27:14,630 --> 00:27:11,940
despite the uncertainty and skepticism

621
00:27:16,430 --> 00:27:14,640
surrounding the UFO phenomenon sightings

622
00:27:19,070 --> 00:27:16,440
on a global scale increased dramatically

623
00:27:20,269 --> 00:27:19,080
in the late 40s leaving some to surmise

624
00:27:22,850 --> 00:27:20,279
that they might have something to do

625
00:27:25,850 --> 00:27:22,860
with World War II or the development of

626
00:27:28,250 --> 00:27:25,860
nuclear technology but these theories do

627
00:27:31,310 --> 00:27:28,260
not explain the sightings in Yukon prior

628
00:27:33,950 --> 00:27:31,320
to the 1940s or for that matter prior to

629
00:27:36,470 --> 00:27:33,960
the aircraft arriving in Canada's North

630
00:27:38,570 --> 00:27:36,480
for Irene adamson's grandmother Han day

631
00:27:40,130 --> 00:27:38,580
seeing the moon split into three was

632
00:27:42,649 --> 00:27:40,140
enough to have her fearing for her life

633
00:27:45,169 --> 00:27:42,659
and the lives of her children

634
00:27:48,590 --> 00:27:45,179
that time then my grandmother my great

635
00:27:50,750 --> 00:27:48,600
great grandmother she

636
00:27:54,409 --> 00:27:50,760
she started to cry

637
00:27:57,049 --> 00:27:54,419
and she took out she took out the Rope

638
00:28:00,110 --> 00:27:57,059
she took up roof and she tied around her

639
00:28:01,669 --> 00:28:00,120
waist and she tied them she tied all of

640
00:28:05,390 --> 00:28:01,679
her kids to

641
00:28:09,470 --> 00:28:05,400
to her she watched Penny all night and

642
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:23,230
foreign

643
00:28:27,769 --> 00:28:26,090
in the past 10 years the two major

644
00:28:29,630 --> 00:28:27,779
newspapers in the territory have

645
00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:29,640
published numerous stories of strange

646
00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:32,640
lights in Yukon Skies the sightings have

647
00:28:37,130 --> 00:28:34,559
been so frequent that it was decided

648
00:28:39,110 --> 00:28:37,140
that it was time to have a conference so

649
00:28:41,149 --> 00:28:39,120
far there have been two both in

650
00:28:44,210 --> 00:28:41,159
Whitehorse one in two thousand and the

651
00:28:47,390 --> 00:28:44,220
other in 2002 attended by ufologists

652
00:28:50,990 --> 00:28:47,400
such as the well-known Stan Friedman the

653
00:28:54,289 --> 00:28:51,000
giant UFO event of December 11 1996 was

654
00:28:57,529 --> 00:28:54,299
a highlight of the 2000 conference

655
00:28:59,810 --> 00:28:57,539
and I'm going to share my story with you

656
00:29:01,549 --> 00:28:59,820
the conference has also addressed some

657
00:29:04,549 --> 00:29:01,559
of the major obstacles plaguing the

658
00:29:07,310 --> 00:29:04,559
collection of UFO data fear of ridicule

659
00:29:10,010 --> 00:29:07,320
is one Witnesses are very reluctant to

660
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:10,020
come forward I think the biggest thing

661
00:29:17,510 --> 00:29:13,679
would be they're afraid of um of uh

662
00:29:20,389 --> 00:29:17,520
losing face or or looking silly or

663
00:29:22,610 --> 00:29:20,399
people won't believe them

664
00:29:24,409 --> 00:29:22,620
so you know um

665
00:29:30,190 --> 00:29:24,419
we're taught not to believe in things

666
00:29:36,169 --> 00:29:33,610
they might be questioned

667
00:29:38,389 --> 00:29:36,179
there might be some individuals that are

668
00:29:40,250 --> 00:29:38,399
in the reserves I've seen it and you

669
00:29:42,110 --> 00:29:40,260
know might even get picked out of the

670
00:29:43,730 --> 00:29:42,120
reserves there's lots of people who

671
00:29:47,330 --> 00:29:43,740
believe

672
00:29:49,510 --> 00:29:47,340
um simply because they have experiences

673
00:29:51,850 --> 00:29:49,520
um but at the same time

674
00:29:54,529 --> 00:29:51,860
Christianity enters into the picture

675
00:29:58,010 --> 00:29:54,539
most people will not

676
00:29:59,450 --> 00:29:58,020
cross that line publicly well they're

677
00:30:00,909 --> 00:29:59,460
afraid of being criticized and thought

678
00:30:03,590 --> 00:30:00,919
to be you know

679
00:30:05,630 --> 00:30:03,600
in la la land and of course it could

680
00:30:07,970 --> 00:30:05,640
affect their their position in their job

681
00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:07,980
or whatever I went to the post office

682
00:30:13,730 --> 00:30:11,520
and the next day and I saw the RCMP

683
00:30:15,909 --> 00:30:13,740
there and I told him I said well I saw

684
00:30:19,250 --> 00:30:15,919
that big UFO that flew over yesterday

685
00:30:21,470 --> 00:30:19,260
last night and he said that was no UFO

686
00:30:22,909 --> 00:30:21,480
there was meteor breaking up and I said

687
00:30:25,250 --> 00:30:22,919
well I hope to heck it you're right

688
00:30:27,350 --> 00:30:25,260
because if you're not there was somebody

689
00:30:29,389 --> 00:30:27,360
behind the wheel driving it

690
00:30:31,490 --> 00:30:29,399
the reasons why Witnesses and government

691
00:30:35,870 --> 00:30:31,500
agencies do not come forward publicly

692
00:30:37,850 --> 00:30:35,880
are many the RCMP Transport Canada Yukon

693
00:30:39,769 --> 00:30:37,860
Municipal and First Nation governments

694
00:30:40,789 --> 00:30:39,779
were all invited to the conference in

695
00:30:44,149 --> 00:30:40,799
2000

696
00:30:45,830 --> 00:30:44,159
but for various reasons did not attend

697
00:30:48,169 --> 00:30:45,840
a letter from the Department of National

698
00:30:50,510 --> 00:30:48,179
Defense states that they couldn't attend

699
00:30:52,610 --> 00:30:50,520
because of scheduling conflicts

700
00:30:55,970 --> 00:30:52,620
Louise Hardy was UConn's Member of

701
00:30:57,710 --> 00:30:55,980
Parliament from 1997 to 2000. she

702
00:31:00,889 --> 00:30:57,720
provided some opening remarks at the

703
00:31:04,250 --> 00:31:00,899
2000 UFO conference we know that there's

704
00:31:06,769 --> 00:31:04,260
a wider world out there and I see work

705
00:31:08,870 --> 00:31:06,779
as as people coming together to

706
00:31:11,090 --> 00:31:08,880
investigate and study that wider world

707
00:31:13,370 --> 00:31:11,100
so I hope everybody enjoys the

708
00:31:14,690 --> 00:31:13,380
conference and and I and I hope that you

709
00:31:16,430 --> 00:31:14,700
know that you're on The Cutting Edge

710
00:31:19,430 --> 00:31:16,440
here there's not too many places that

711
00:31:21,830 --> 00:31:19,440
have UFO conferences so congratulations

712
00:31:24,529 --> 00:31:21,840
Louise Hardy was one government official

713
00:31:28,070 --> 00:31:24,539
to whom the 1996 sighting was reported

714
00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:28,080
by the Yukon UFO research Society

715
00:31:34,389 --> 00:31:30,000
I sent it to just about anybody I could

716
00:31:38,269 --> 00:31:34,399
uh Louise Hardy our our MP at the time

717
00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:38,279
the RCMP Detachment in White Horse DND

718
00:31:43,669 --> 00:31:39,840
out of Yellowknife

719
00:31:48,169 --> 00:31:43,679
and a lot of the communities as well

720
00:31:51,889 --> 00:31:48,179
and uh basically what what I asked is to

721
00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:51,899
for two-way exchange of information

722
00:31:56,570 --> 00:31:54,480
about this case we did eventually get a

723
00:31:59,389 --> 00:31:56,580
response about a year later from the

724
00:32:01,850 --> 00:31:59,399
National Defense and and they

725
00:32:03,830 --> 00:32:01,860
forwarded the report to uh UFO

726
00:32:06,470 --> 00:32:03,840
organization in Manitoba which is kind

727
00:32:08,389 --> 00:32:06,480
of like the central collecting point of

728
00:32:11,090 --> 00:32:08,399
for UFO sightings and but they're just

729
00:32:13,250 --> 00:32:11,100
like another organization like us so it

730
00:32:15,289 --> 00:32:13,260
actually went full the report went full

731
00:32:17,450 --> 00:32:15,299
circle and uh there was really no

732
00:32:20,090 --> 00:32:17,460
official acknowledgment

733
00:32:21,590 --> 00:32:20,100
this email sent to Martin jassic from a

734
00:32:24,769 --> 00:32:21,600
Canadian Forces intelligence and

735
00:32:28,370 --> 00:32:24,779
security officer dated August 8 2000

736
00:32:30,830 --> 00:32:28,380
States in part Canada and the USA as

737
00:32:34,610 --> 00:32:30,840
NORAD Partners back in either the end of

738
00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:34,620
the 1970s or the early 1980s determined

739
00:32:38,510 --> 00:32:36,720
that the existence of extraterrestrials

740
00:32:41,690 --> 00:32:38,520
was unfounded

741
00:32:43,730 --> 00:32:41,700
the email goes on to say it has been my

742
00:32:45,529 --> 00:32:43,740
experience that all sightings that I

743
00:32:47,990 --> 00:32:45,539
have reported up the chain of command

744
00:32:50,269 --> 00:32:48,000
have proven to be either satellites or

745
00:32:52,250 --> 00:32:50,279
high-flying military aircraft

746
00:32:55,010 --> 00:32:52,260
the long-standing theory of a government

747
00:32:56,990 --> 00:32:55,020
cover-up is also a concern to Witnesses

748
00:32:58,970 --> 00:32:57,000
and investigators

749
00:33:01,090 --> 00:32:58,980
no one talks about it because the

750
00:33:03,289 --> 00:33:01,100
governments don't

751
00:33:06,289 --> 00:33:03,299
acknowledge the fact that these things

752
00:33:08,510 --> 00:33:06,299
exist there was a new story about this

753
00:33:10,850 --> 00:33:08,520
particular UFO

754
00:33:12,830 --> 00:33:10,860
um on the radio the next morning

755
00:33:15,529 --> 00:33:12,840
but

756
00:33:18,310 --> 00:33:15,539
that's all it was like people seen this

757
00:33:20,830 --> 00:33:18,320
there's no nothing that says

758
00:33:24,350 --> 00:33:20,840
whether any

759
00:33:26,570 --> 00:33:24,360
airports had it on their radar screen or

760
00:33:29,450 --> 00:33:26,580
what it was or you know there's no

761
00:33:31,549 --> 00:33:29,460
answers absolutely no answers so the

762
00:33:32,930 --> 00:33:31,559
government is kind of like our they like

763
00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:32,940
to think of themselves as being our

764
00:33:36,409 --> 00:33:35,279
parents assuring us that everything's

765
00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:36,419
okay

766
00:33:38,630 --> 00:33:36,960
um

767
00:33:40,909 --> 00:33:38,640
everything's under control they have

768
00:33:42,830 --> 00:33:40,919
everything under control and and to

769
00:33:44,269 --> 00:33:42,840
admit to this it would indicate that

770
00:33:46,430 --> 00:33:44,279
they don't have everything under control

771
00:33:49,789 --> 00:33:46,440
and uh

772
00:33:53,110 --> 00:33:49,799
um then there's the issue of fear that

773
00:33:56,750 --> 00:33:53,120
everybody will panic and um

774
00:33:59,389 --> 00:33:56,760
there's also things like um

775
00:34:02,810 --> 00:33:59,399
issue of energy if people if this

776
00:34:05,570 --> 00:34:02,820
becomes accepted then what energy are

777
00:34:07,549 --> 00:34:05,580
these UFOs using to fly around at such

778
00:34:10,190 --> 00:34:07,559
great speeds convincing government

779
00:34:11,990 --> 00:34:10,200
agencies and officials scientists and

780
00:34:14,510 --> 00:34:12,000
the general public to take the UFO

781
00:34:16,609 --> 00:34:14,520
phenomena seriously and to accept it as

782
00:34:18,589 --> 00:34:16,619
a legitimate field of study was a

783
00:34:20,750 --> 00:34:18,599
long-term goal of the UFO conference in

784
00:34:22,669 --> 00:34:20,760
Whitehorse UConn in 2000

785
00:34:24,589 --> 00:34:22,679
a shorter term goal was to begin

786
00:34:26,750 --> 00:34:24,599
establishing an environment of trust

787
00:34:29,389 --> 00:34:26,760
respect and cooperation between

788
00:34:31,129 --> 00:34:29,399
Witnesses civilian investigators and

789
00:34:33,589 --> 00:34:31,139
government agencies

790
00:34:36,169 --> 00:34:33,599
Martin jassic the main investigator of

791
00:34:38,089 --> 00:34:36,179
the giant UFO that was witnessed in 1996

792
00:34:39,770 --> 00:34:38,099
would like to see some Frank and open

793
00:34:42,470 --> 00:34:39,780
discussion take place

794
00:34:44,990 --> 00:34:42,480
yeah my hopes are that we'll be able to

795
00:34:47,570 --> 00:34:45,000
get to that stage and talk about it and

796
00:34:49,369 --> 00:34:47,580
then once it's accepted then you can

797
00:34:52,550 --> 00:34:49,379
really put the resources on it to find

798
00:34:54,230 --> 00:34:52,560
out what what's going on like it's

799
00:34:55,849 --> 00:34:54,240
people working out of their homes trying

800
00:34:58,250 --> 00:34:55,859
to solve the Mysteries and answer these

801
00:35:01,010 --> 00:34:58,260
questions it it just can't be done but

802
00:35:02,690 --> 00:35:01,020
Witnesses still want answers not just

803
00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:02,700
the witnesses that cited the giant

804
00:35:08,750 --> 00:35:06,240
object in 1996 but others in Yukon whose

805
00:35:11,450 --> 00:35:08,760
experiences have gone far beyond just a

806
00:35:21,410 --> 00:35:11,460
sighting Colette Opera was a participant

807
00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:22,609
it was

808
00:35:27,349 --> 00:35:25,200
a very odd feeling because what I saw in

809
00:35:29,210 --> 00:35:27,359
front of me was something that went

810
00:35:31,329 --> 00:35:29,220
straight out in front and I can look up

811
00:35:33,890 --> 00:35:31,339
but that's it

812
00:35:36,650 --> 00:35:33,900
to me it looked metal but the only thing

813
00:35:38,750 --> 00:35:36,660
that didn't make any sense to me how

814
00:35:41,150 --> 00:35:38,760
could that be happening on the side of

815
00:35:45,490 --> 00:35:41,160
my head I really find that the UFO

816
00:35:48,770 --> 00:35:45,500
sightings follow along family lines and

817
00:35:51,650 --> 00:35:48,780
certain people certain people I can see

818
00:35:53,630 --> 00:35:51,660
them have sightings more often and I'm

819
00:35:56,150 --> 00:35:53,640
not sure what it is first nations in

820
00:35:58,310 --> 00:35:56,160
particular stand out from what I

821
00:36:02,450 --> 00:35:58,320
understand if you have one incident you

822
00:36:05,329 --> 00:36:02,460
have many incidents and if sometimes

823
00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:05,339
that just is follows along in your

824
00:36:10,010 --> 00:36:07,920
family do certain cultures seem more

825
00:36:11,930 --> 00:36:10,020
open to such phenomenon as Martin jassic

826
00:36:13,670 --> 00:36:11,940
and Lorraine britland believe

827
00:36:17,150 --> 00:36:13,680
and our Aboriginal people more

828
00:36:19,490 --> 00:36:17,160
susceptible to such events or could the

829
00:36:22,010 --> 00:36:19,500
UFO phenomena already be incorporated

830
00:36:26,230 --> 00:36:22,020
into Aboriginal oral histories another

831
00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:41,050
[Music]

832
00:36:46,130 --> 00:36:43,609
one of the oldest stories involving

833
00:36:48,650 --> 00:36:46,140
Celestial phenomenon can be found in

834
00:36:51,589 --> 00:36:48,660
neighboring British Columbia

835
00:36:54,109 --> 00:36:51,599
Elder Chief Kenneth Harris translates in

836
00:36:56,810 --> 00:36:54,119
the book visitors who never left the

837
00:36:58,730 --> 00:36:56,820
origins of the people of Dom Muhammad a

838
00:37:01,490 --> 00:36:58,740
place that existed between the skina and

839
00:37:02,690 --> 00:37:01,500
mass rivers in northern BC thousands of

840
00:37:04,970 --> 00:37:02,700
years ago

841
00:37:07,490 --> 00:37:04,980
the story tells of a young woman who is

842
00:37:08,810 --> 00:37:07,500
taken to a house in the Sky by a strange

843
00:37:10,670 --> 00:37:08,820
visitor

844
00:37:12,349 --> 00:37:10,680
this is where

845
00:37:14,930 --> 00:37:12,359
the old lady

846
00:37:16,910 --> 00:37:14,940
started to shout looking for a husband

847
00:37:21,410 --> 00:37:16,920
for her granddaughter

848
00:37:27,530 --> 00:37:24,710
that's where her name was born

849
00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:27,540
suddenly one day

850
00:37:32,990 --> 00:37:30,960
a fork settled in where there were on

851
00:37:36,290 --> 00:37:33,000
top of the mountain

852
00:37:39,770 --> 00:37:36,300
and out steps a young man

853
00:37:42,829 --> 00:37:39,780
and the old lady knew that this man was

854
00:37:44,569 --> 00:37:42,839
different he has to be from Heaven you

855
00:37:47,630 --> 00:37:44,579
know an angel

856
00:37:51,589 --> 00:37:47,640
and he only took the girl

857
00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:51,599
who was with him

858
00:37:56,329 --> 00:37:53,040
and

859
00:37:59,450 --> 00:37:56,339
it turned out to be that this girl is

860
00:38:00,950 --> 00:37:59,460
our first mother in heaven

861
00:38:04,670 --> 00:38:00,960
you see

862
00:38:06,050 --> 00:38:04,680
and uh and the person that came to pick

863
00:38:10,430 --> 00:38:06,060
her up

864
00:38:19,069 --> 00:38:13,130
and so this is the beginning of our

865
00:38:23,390 --> 00:38:21,710
in heaven the girl is taken to what is

866
00:38:25,310 --> 00:38:23,400
described as a house

867
00:38:27,589 --> 00:38:25,320
in the corner of the house is something

868
00:38:30,109 --> 00:38:27,599
that resembles dripping water

869
00:38:32,329 --> 00:38:30,119
a baby placed under the drips could grow

870
00:38:35,510 --> 00:38:32,339
into adulthood in an incredibly short

871
00:38:39,470 --> 00:38:35,520
period of time they had a little drips

872
00:38:41,690 --> 00:38:39,480
of water from the corner of the house

873
00:38:43,370 --> 00:38:41,700
and what happened

874
00:38:47,030 --> 00:38:43,380
this girl

875
00:38:51,770 --> 00:38:47,040
although they never lived together

876
00:38:53,930 --> 00:38:51,780
and the young man that brought her there

877
00:38:56,750 --> 00:38:53,940
had a child

878
00:39:00,109 --> 00:38:56,760
first child was born

879
00:39:02,990 --> 00:39:00,119
he took the child and brought it to his

880
00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:03,000
father who was sitting in the middle of

881
00:39:06,530 --> 00:39:04,320
the house

882
00:39:09,290 --> 00:39:06,540
and what he did

883
00:39:13,010 --> 00:39:09,300
he washed the baby

884
00:39:15,470 --> 00:39:13,020
in the little jets that flew from the

885
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:15,480
corner of his house and all of a sudden

886
00:39:19,089 --> 00:39:17,810
the baby crowed to be a man

887
00:39:21,970 --> 00:39:19,099
[Music]

888
00:39:24,829 --> 00:39:21,980
and uh

889
00:39:29,329 --> 00:39:24,839
and that was the beginning

890
00:39:32,390 --> 00:39:29,339
this became the firstborn son of

891
00:39:37,130 --> 00:39:32,400
Kim we call them

892
00:39:39,829 --> 00:39:37,140
the next child became was it was a boy

893
00:39:43,430 --> 00:39:39,839
and became a man

894
00:39:46,490 --> 00:39:43,440
and now the third one

895
00:39:48,050 --> 00:39:46,500
was a little girl and so that the three

896
00:39:50,750 --> 00:39:48,060
children are

897
00:39:52,250 --> 00:39:50,760
growing up well they didn't grow up he

898
00:39:55,810 --> 00:39:52,260
stretch them

899
00:39:59,329 --> 00:39:55,820
attracts them into adult adulthood

900
00:40:01,609 --> 00:39:59,339
and he put them in a canoe

901
00:40:05,030 --> 00:40:01,619
and put them on Earth

902
00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:05,040
and the canoe landed at a place that we

903
00:40:10,370 --> 00:40:07,200
called the Muhammad

904
00:40:15,829 --> 00:40:12,890
because these three children that came

905
00:40:18,230 --> 00:40:15,839
from kiloli

906
00:40:20,870 --> 00:40:18,240
the story this respected Elder tells

907
00:40:23,089 --> 00:40:20,880
records the history and lineage of the

908
00:40:25,250 --> 00:40:23,099
First Nations people from that area

909
00:40:27,050 --> 00:40:25,260
it is a living record of Immaculate

910
00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:27,060
interaction between humans and

911
00:40:32,890 --> 00:40:30,480
Supernatural or otherworldly beings can

912
00:40:37,030 --> 00:40:32,900
you can you do you believe that maybe

913
00:40:41,390 --> 00:40:37,040
the people in clockwan Alaska might also

914
00:40:43,670 --> 00:40:41,400
be related to those people yes but they

915
00:40:46,250 --> 00:40:43,680
brought with them also the first totem

916
00:40:49,609 --> 00:40:46,260
pole remember yeah they they did bring

917
00:40:59,109 --> 00:40:49,619
the first totem pole with ticketless

918
00:41:03,710 --> 00:41:02,329
according to Aboriginal oral history the

919
00:41:05,930 --> 00:41:03,720
children who brought the first totem

920
00:41:08,510 --> 00:41:05,940
pole to Earth were created in a room in

921
00:41:10,609 --> 00:41:08,520
the sky thousands of years ago this is

922
00:41:13,310 --> 00:41:10,619
not surprising considering strange

923
00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:13,320
objects lights and beings that come down

924
00:41:16,849 --> 00:41:14,880
from the heavens have been recorded

925
00:41:18,170 --> 00:41:16,859
before written history in most places in

926
00:41:21,050 --> 00:41:18,180
the world

927
00:41:23,329 --> 00:41:21,060
but however humankind in all its

928
00:41:25,250 --> 00:41:23,339
Multicultural diversity has recorded

929
00:41:28,010 --> 00:41:25,260
these unexplained celestial events

930
00:41:30,410 --> 00:41:28,020
whether in written oral or pictorial

931
00:41:31,910 --> 00:41:30,420
form these records leave more questions

932
00:41:34,550 --> 00:41:31,920
than answers

933
00:41:36,890 --> 00:41:34,560
could the cloud the angel in the canoe

934
00:41:39,230 --> 00:41:36,900
in Chief Harris's story be the same

935
00:41:40,730 --> 00:41:39,240
clouds angels and chariots that are

936
00:41:42,470 --> 00:41:40,740
referred to in the Bible and other

937
00:41:44,690 --> 00:41:42,480
ancient histories

938
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:44,700
is it possible that the vessels that

939
00:41:49,790 --> 00:41:47,040
these angels traveled in are the UFOs

940
00:41:51,650 --> 00:41:49,800
that are talked about today

941
00:41:53,630 --> 00:41:51,660
and could these angels be the same

942
00:41:55,730 --> 00:41:53,640
beings that have been spoken of for

943
00:41:58,130 --> 00:41:55,740
thousands of years around the campfires

944
00:42:00,349 --> 00:41:58,140
of Aboriginal people around the world

945
00:42:02,270 --> 00:42:00,359
well there's certainly UFOs in the Bible

946
00:42:04,550 --> 00:42:02,280
all through the Bible there's a whole

947
00:42:06,890 --> 00:42:04,560
bunch of passages in fact when Moses

948
00:42:10,670 --> 00:42:06,900
went up to the mountain to visit with

949
00:42:11,870 --> 00:42:10,680
God here came God flying towards him on

950
00:42:15,170 --> 00:42:11,880
a cloud

951
00:42:17,150 --> 00:42:15,180
so God's Cloud came and landed and and

952
00:42:20,030 --> 00:42:17,160
he got out of the cloud and talked to

953
00:42:21,589 --> 00:42:20,040
Moses and you supposedly gave him the

954
00:42:24,530 --> 00:42:21,599
Ten Commandments

955
00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:24,540
so um there's uh several different

956
00:42:28,310 --> 00:42:25,680
places

957
00:42:30,109 --> 00:42:28,320
in the in the Bible where they mentioned

958
00:42:33,530 --> 00:42:30,119
spacecraft

959
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:33,540
and all of the mythology have little

960
00:42:41,030 --> 00:42:37,200
people and big people and all different

961
00:42:43,310 --> 00:42:41,040
sort of beings that are not human

962
00:42:47,150 --> 00:42:43,320
all the mythology from around the world

963
00:42:49,730 --> 00:42:47,160
if you go back to the Egyptian temples

964
00:42:51,470 --> 00:42:49,740
in the earlier times you know three or

965
00:42:54,950 --> 00:42:51,480
four thousand years ago

966
00:42:57,829 --> 00:42:54,960
you know I've always felt that the gods

967
00:42:59,690 --> 00:42:57,839
and the that are put on these drawings

968
00:43:02,210 --> 00:42:59,700
and that are in these drawings you know

969
00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:02,220
there's some with a long snout that

970
00:43:08,510 --> 00:43:05,760
these were the original Star people that

971
00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:08,520
that came to Earth and that's what they

972
00:43:12,349 --> 00:43:10,560
saw and they called them gods of course

973
00:43:15,589 --> 00:43:12,359
because they came in these incredible

974
00:43:19,849 --> 00:43:15,599
ships we call UFOs supposedly Crow made

975
00:43:22,210 --> 00:43:19,859
the world so maybe he was uh the god raw

976
00:43:25,069 --> 00:43:22,220
from the Egyptian tax say this

977
00:43:28,069 --> 00:43:25,079
crow-looking creature and the people

978
00:43:30,950 --> 00:43:28,079
back then didn't have a name for him or

979
00:43:34,010 --> 00:43:30,960
anything and uh and the being must have

980
00:43:35,809 --> 00:43:34,020
had a beak or looked crow-like so they

981
00:43:38,390 --> 00:43:35,819
called him a crow all these things

982
00:43:41,630 --> 00:43:38,400
coming here aren't new

983
00:43:44,690 --> 00:43:41,640
um how far they go back I don't know and

984
00:43:48,410 --> 00:43:44,700
how they are wherever recorded I don't

985
00:43:50,170 --> 00:43:48,420
know but certainly that type of phrasing

986
00:43:53,210 --> 00:43:50,180
and wording

987
00:43:55,130 --> 00:43:53,220
absolutely it fits in

988
00:43:58,130 --> 00:43:55,140
with what's happening today although

989
00:44:01,250 --> 00:43:58,140
we're using modern words it's

990
00:44:03,230 --> 00:44:01,260
it has the Ring of all the same sort of

991
00:44:04,609 --> 00:44:03,240
subject matter I think they've been

992
00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:04,619
around for a while

993
00:44:08,510 --> 00:44:06,720
it's got to be with the technology like

994
00:44:10,010 --> 00:44:08,520
that that's

995
00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:10,020
I mean that's

996
00:44:18,290 --> 00:44:12,960
light years ahead they have been here

997
00:44:20,210 --> 00:44:18,300
for a long long time even I wonder if we

998
00:44:22,069 --> 00:44:20,220
are an experiment

999
00:44:23,630 --> 00:44:22,079
whether they placed us here and then

1000
00:44:24,589 --> 00:44:23,640
just come and check on us every once in

1001
00:44:27,770 --> 00:44:24,599
a while

1002
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:27,780
we're far too smart to be an animal

1003
00:44:31,730 --> 00:44:30,480
far too smart and we we evolve very

1004
00:44:33,829 --> 00:44:31,740
fastly

1005
00:44:35,690 --> 00:44:33,839
we we come up and look at the last

1006
00:44:39,950 --> 00:44:35,700
hundred years from the crank telephone

1007
00:44:43,370 --> 00:44:39,960
to internet in a hundred years

1008
00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:43,380
I think we're very intelligent beings I

1009
00:44:46,970 --> 00:44:44,880
think we're part of

1010
00:44:49,609 --> 00:44:46,980
of them out there

1011
00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:49,619
and I think one day we will remember

1012
00:44:53,690 --> 00:44:51,119
that

1013
00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:53,700
and I don't know what their agenda is or

1014
00:44:58,430 --> 00:44:55,440
where they're from whether they're from

1015
00:44:59,870 --> 00:44:58,440
Earth whether they're from outer space

1016
00:45:03,170 --> 00:44:59,880
so

1017
00:45:07,309 --> 00:45:03,180
it's hard to say what it was or

1018
00:45:10,670 --> 00:45:07,319
I have no idea who was driving the thing

1019
00:45:13,790 --> 00:45:10,680
I think that these are manifestations of

1020
00:45:16,309 --> 00:45:13,800
beings who come from other dimensions or

1021
00:45:18,710 --> 00:45:16,319
from other star systems if they have the

1022
00:45:22,490 --> 00:45:18,720
technology to float a ship that slowly

1023
00:45:24,050 --> 00:45:22,500
they have a technology too

1024
00:45:27,530 --> 00:45:24,060
we're history

1025
00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:27,540
so I think there are people of or beings

1026
00:45:35,690 --> 00:45:30,960
that want to meet with us

1027
00:45:40,550 --> 00:45:37,730
I probably won't see it again in my

1028
00:45:42,950 --> 00:45:40,560
lifetime but

1029
00:45:44,750 --> 00:45:42,960
if I do I might wave this time

1030
00:45:48,290 --> 00:45:44,760
one day I'll meet them I shake their

1031
00:45:52,990 --> 00:45:50,390
I think that'll be soon

1032
00:45:57,849 --> 00:45:53,000
real soon

1033
00:46:06,190 --> 00:46:00,670
I look forward to it

1034
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:09,829
will Society ever discuss openly these

1035
00:46:14,990 --> 00:46:12,720
strange celestial events without fear

1036
00:46:17,870 --> 00:46:15,000
without fear of ridicule or fear of

1037
00:46:19,970 --> 00:46:17,880
reproach perhaps reconciling the stories

1038
00:46:22,250 --> 00:46:19,980
of our ancestors and our elders with

1039
00:46:26,510 --> 00:46:22,260
present day experiences

1040
00:46:32,510 --> 00:46:28,790
as for the giant craft that so many

1041
00:46:34,490 --> 00:46:32,520
people witnessed on December 11 1996

1042
00:46:36,290 --> 00:46:34,500
will we ever know for sure what it was

1043
00:46:38,510 --> 00:46:36,300
or who was flying it

1044
00:46:40,790 --> 00:46:38,520
probably not

1045
00:46:43,130 --> 00:46:40,800
but one thing is for sure

1046
00:46:45,770 --> 00:46:43,140
if you find yourself on a lonely stretch

1047
00:46:47,690 --> 00:46:45,780
of road on the North Klondike Highway

1048
00:46:50,210 --> 00:46:47,700
especially late at night

1049
00:46:52,370 --> 00:46:50,220
make sure you look at the sky

1050
00:47:07,970 --> 00:46:52,380
look into the heavens